tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post3668193646683565040..comments2023-06-11T16:20:12.413+01:00Comments on Don't Leave Your Brain at the Door: The Baptism of JesusStill Breathinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15978442035953135900noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post-79207500324300550942013-10-24T19:23:48.066+01:002013-10-24T19:23:48.066+01:00Daniel, That makes sense to me. Too often we look...Daniel, That makes sense to me. Too often we look for one meaning in a passage of scripture when there can be many.Still Breathinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978442035953135900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post-8365521660194389492013-09-22T21:01:50.424+01:002013-09-22T21:01:50.424+01:00I think the point is more of a foreshadowing of Je...I think the point is more of a foreshadowing of Jesus' death and resurrection. J. the Baptist himself acknowledges he needs to be baptized by Jesus, but the reality is that if Jesus does not die and resurrects, J. the Baptist cannot be baptized in the Spirit, so that to fulfill all righteousness, Jesus must die and resurrect. That is why I think the gospels record J. the Baptist's question, and leave you wondering, so that when Jesus' true baptism happens, his death and resurrection, you will understand why he was baptized to begin with.<br />Does that make sense?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16556736968664071558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post-54364832576127078632012-04-27T21:46:14.692+01:002012-04-27T21:46:14.692+01:00rmilanese, I think you are still looking at Jesus&...rmilanese, I think you are still looking at Jesus' baptism in terms of Him as an individual. John was proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins which would have excluded Jesus from baptism. What I am saying is that it marked the moment when he, although perfect, moved out from living a normal life in a sinful society to starting His ministry. He isn't repenting of His own sins but the sins of the society in which He lived. In the West we have emphasised individual salvation and faith so much that we have lost sight of the collective element.Still Breathinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978442035953135900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post-21121771609237395052012-04-27T14:58:43.488+01:002012-04-27T14:58:43.488+01:00Jesus' baptism is different from that of anyon...Jesus' baptism is different from that of anyone else. The prophet John acknowledges this in different ways in the gospel records. Some of the important differences: (1) there was no voice from heaven saying "This is my beloved son" for anyone else but Jesus; (2) there is no indication of Jesus confessing his sins before being baptized, but rather, that he is the lamb of God who will take away the sins of the world; (3) in relation to the prophet John's basic message: John is announcing that the kingdom of God is at hand; one part of his message of repentance applies to the nation of Israel as a whole, so that they may prepare their hearts to receive their king; the second part of his message is that Jesus is king; this accounts for the special nature of Jesus' baptism -- and the miraculous events that accompany that baptism; all these things support John's message that Jesus is the king whom Israel needs to receive, the one who has power to baptize the truly repentant with the Holy Spirit, and the rest with fire.rmilanesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post-88184988266559708472011-05-20T12:23:54.000+01:002011-05-20T12:23:54.000+01:00Serena, I'm far from saying that Jesus had sin...Serena, I'm far from saying that Jesus had sin just that this marked his moving out of the sinful society to begin his mission. I suspect we are saying the same thing in different ways.Still Breathinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978442035953135900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1192931592528871287.post-25154848678132661402011-05-17T13:50:41.650+01:002011-05-17T13:50:41.650+01:00Hmmm, I'm not sure. I'm pretty much in th...Hmmm, I'm not sure. I'm pretty much in the camp of Jesus being fully human but without sin. I think Jesus' baptism for me has always been more to do with identification with the rest of us. Jewish baptism, IIRC, was a repeated thing, particularly before big rituals and events. So I would agree that this marks a significant point in Jesus' life, where he "begins his ministry", but I don't think it has anything much to do with washing away sin for him, perhaps it is the beginning of a new form of baptism - as a symbol of a life dedicated to God?serenanoreply@blogger.com